diff --git a/Zotlabs/Lib/Apps.php b/Zotlabs/Lib/Apps.php
index ec1f3f9dc..8db4e000f 100644
--- a/Zotlabs/Lib/Apps.php
+++ b/Zotlabs/Lib/Apps.php
@@ -271,6 +271,10 @@ class Apps {
 						if(! can_view_public_stream())
 							unset($ret);
 						break;
+					case 'custom_role':
+						if(get_pconfig(local_channel(),'system','permissions_role') != 'custom')
+							unset($ret);
+						break;
 					case 'observer':
 						if(! $observer)
 							unset($ret);
@@ -468,6 +472,10 @@ class Apps {
 							if(! can_view_public_stream())
 								return '';
 							break;
+						case 'custom_role':
+							if(get_pconfig(local_channel(),'system','permissions_role') != 'custom')
+								return '';
+							break;
 						case 'observer':
 							$observer = \App::get_observer();
 							if(! $observer)
diff --git a/Zotlabs/Module/Defperms.php b/Zotlabs/Module/Defperms.php
index 2e886aa64..463ecb57a 100644
--- a/Zotlabs/Module/Defperms.php
+++ b/Zotlabs/Module/Defperms.php
@@ -1,15 +1,16 @@
 <?php
 namespace Zotlabs\Module;
 
+use App;
 use Zotlabs\Lib\Apps;
+use Zotlabs\Web\Controller;
 
 require_once('include/socgraph.php');
 require_once('include/selectors.php');
 require_once('include/group.php');
 require_once('include/photos.php');
 
-
-class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
+class Defperms extends Controller {
 
 	/* @brief Initialize the connection-editor
 	 *
@@ -20,6 +21,9 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 	
 		if(! local_channel())
 			return;
+
+		if(! Apps::system_app_installed(local_channel(), 'Default Permissions'))
+			return;
 	
 		$r = q("SELECT abook.*, xchan.*
 			FROM abook left join xchan on abook_xchan = xchan_hash
@@ -27,10 +31,10 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 			intval(local_channel())
 		);
 		if($r) {
-			\App::$poi = $r[0];
+			App::$poi = $r[0];
 		}
 
-		$channel = \App::get_channel();
+		$channel = App::get_channel();
 		if($channel)
 			head_set_icon($channel['xchan_photo_s']);	
 	}
@@ -44,12 +48,15 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 	
 		if(! local_channel())
 			return;
+
+		if(! Apps::system_app_installed(local_channel(), 'Default Permissions'))
+			return;
 	
 		$contact_id = intval(argv(1));
 		if(! $contact_id)
 			return;
 	
-		$channel = \App::get_channel();
+		$channel = App::get_channel();
 	
 		$orig_record = q("SELECT * FROM abook WHERE abook_id = %d AND abook_channel = %d LIMIT 1",
 			intval($contact_id),
@@ -113,7 +120,7 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 			intval($contact_id)
 		);
 		if($r) {
-			\App::$poi = $r[0];
+			App::$poi = $r[0];
 		}
 	
 	
@@ -132,22 +139,22 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 	
 	function defperms_clone(&$a) {
 	
-			if(! \App::$poi)
+			if(! App::$poi)
 				return;
 		
-			$channel = \App::get_channel();
+			$channel = App::get_channel();
 	
 			$r = q("SELECT abook.*, xchan.*
 				FROM abook left join xchan on abook_xchan = xchan_hash
 				WHERE abook_channel = %d and abook_id = %d LIMIT 1",
 				intval(local_channel()),
-				intval(\App::$poi['abook_id'])
+				intval(App::$poi['abook_id'])
 			);
 			if($r) {
-				\App::$poi = array_shift($r);
+				App::$poi = array_shift($r);
 			}
 	
-			$clone = \App::$poi;
+			$clone = App::$poi;
 	
 			unset($clone['abook_id']);
 			unset($clone['abook_account']);
@@ -174,9 +181,18 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 			notice( t('Permission denied.') . EOL);
 			return login();
 		}
+
+		if(! Apps::system_app_installed(local_channel(), 'Default Permissions')) {
+			//Do not display any associated widgets at this point
+			App::$pdl = '';
+
+			$o = '<b>' . t('Default Permissions App') . ' (' . t('Not Installed') . '):</b><br>';
+			$o .= t('Set custom default permissions for new connections');
+			return $o;
+		}
 	
 		$section = ((array_key_exists('section',$_REQUEST)) ? $_REQUEST['section'] : '');
-		$channel = \App::get_channel();
+		$channel = App::get_channel();
 	
 		$yes_no = array(t('No'),t('Yes'));
 	
@@ -194,7 +210,7 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 		}
 		$o .= " }\n</script>\n";
 	
-		if(\App::$poi) {
+		if(App::$poi) {
 	
 			$sections = [];
 
@@ -204,9 +220,9 @@ class Defperms extends \Zotlabs\Web\Controller {
 	
 	
 			$perms = array();
-			$channel = \App::get_channel();
+			$channel = App::get_channel();
 
-			$contact = \App::$poi;
+			$contact = App::$poi;
 	
 			$global_perms = \Zotlabs\Access\Permissions::Perms();
 
diff --git a/Zotlabs/Widget/Settings_menu.php b/Zotlabs/Widget/Settings_menu.php
index 194c4b05b..a4b288441 100644
--- a/Zotlabs/Widget/Settings_menu.php
+++ b/Zotlabs/Widget/Settings_menu.php
@@ -65,14 +65,6 @@ class Settings_menu {
 			);
 		}
 
-		if($role === false || $role === 'custom') {
-			$tabs[] = array(
-				'label' => t('Connection Default Permissions'),
-				'url' => z_root() . '/defperms',
-				'selected' => ''
-			);
-		}
-
 		$tabtpl = get_markup_template("generic_links_widget.tpl");
 		return replace_macros($tabtpl, array(
 			'$title' => t('Settings'),